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For those of you who haven't heard, Nasa intends to Bomb the moon . the idea is to blast a hole big enough ot see if there is water under the surface. five miles in circumferance.
Rape? Murder? do we have words for such an act?
I've been focusing on the 'do not make it worse' model of reality. We are so overwhelmed with devestations, pain, terror. At least we can learn not to make it worse. To live lives that depend less and less on anything that has been abusively taken from the earth, from animals, or from our own bodies.
We have bombed and mutilated Gaia for so long. Let this be the first, and last, time we do it to LUNA.
The LAST TIME we do this to Luna.
she'll feel it. fucked up hyper-intellectualized debates about whether or not planets are conscious, while we act like seven year old computer game addicts who can't tell a tree from a lamp post, do not change the fact that...
she will feel it.
Please pray with her.
For those of you who haven't heard, Nasa intends to Bomb the moon . the idea is to blast a hole big enough ot see if there is water under the surface. five miles in circumferance.
Rape? Murder? do we have words for such an act?
I've been focusing on the 'do not make it worse' model of reality. We are so overwhelmed with devestations, pain, terror. At least we can learn not to make it worse. To live lives that depend less and less on anything that has been abusively taken from the earth, from animals, or from our own bodies.
We have bombed and mutilated Gaia for so long. Let this be the first, and last, time we do it to LUNA.
The LAST TIME we do this to Luna.
she'll feel it. fucked up hyper-intellectualized debates about whether or not planets are conscious, while we act like seven year old computer game addicts who can't tell a tree from a lamp post, do not change the fact that...
she will feel it.
Please pray with her.
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Re: Bombing Luna
Fri, October 2, 2009 - 2:26 PMbomb the moon? O monkey man
will you destroy it all?
if you can?
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Re: Bombing Luna
Fri, October 2, 2009 - 6:19 PMpower from the moon blue-white light bathing our planet
reflections of the great sun
east, west, north and south
up into the sheer, electric-blue sky
down into the dark promise of the earth
in the name of love yes all is well
the self effacing moon smiles softly
what are a few bombs on this face
she laughs unselfconsciously
silly humans you forget
you are only humans
after all
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Re: Bombing Luna
Sat, October 3, 2009 - 6:49 AMThe global politic of dominance is fascist and is insane - See the 70% Plan linked via Psi Intel for clarity
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Re: Bombing Luna
Sat, October 3, 2009 - 3:43 AMThe solar system bombs the moon regularly with meteors, look at the face of it. NASA's "bombing" very very tiny by comparison. They are going to analyze the spectrum of the matter thrown up and see how much water is there. I really don't see how this is so damaging, and think y'all are reacting to the symbolism of it. I wish we would stop bombing each other here on Earth!!! But i do not see this impact with the moon and the science that comes with it as damaging. Rape? Murder? I really don't see it. What is being raped and killed, the pockmarked moon is still there after the total pounding of millions of years of meteors? This is a very tiny thing by comparison, not done in anger or hate or even greed, but in curiosity and to expand the sphere of human knowledge.
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Re: Bombing Luna
Sat, October 3, 2009 - 7:02 PMNow we have reached both ends of the spectrum....." how politically correct " -
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Re: Bombing Luna
Tue, October 6, 2009 - 9:05 PMI don't think they're out to kill the moon, but for ye who considers this a bad thing, you could be upset about how we're polluting the moon with the by-products of an explosive material, but other than that, which I am sure can be argued either way somehow, I see nothing but benefit from this. But I am but an I
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India
Thu, October 8, 2009 - 9:06 PMThere is no need to bomb themoon for water. India already discovered water on the moon. So why?
www.youtube.com/watch
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Re: Bombing Luna
Thu, October 8, 2009 - 9:30 PMit's in the nature of teenage boy that if he gets his hands on a gun, BB gun to hunting rifle, he's going to want to kill ... something.
so we're like the little boy hopelessly drawn into a murderous act by our own visions of dominance and power such as we had never known before
bombing, giddy, excited like little boys with toy guns -
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Re: Bombing Luna
Wed, October 14, 2009 - 12:35 PMwil I have been annoyed with you for seeming to pick fights where they needn't be picked... only to find myself sloppy later.
In this case I struggle for words. the miond cannot be allowed to turn such a step into a healthy game. adn opposing it isn't a democratic tea party debate.
We cant fuck up another planet.
the solar system bombs the moon upon occasion. Our capacity to be in harmony with the rest of life around here sucks, we do not qualify for bomibing rights.
I'm sure The Moon knows what is up when a meteor hits. It probably funcitons like a forest fire, a destructive force within a greater balance that plasy a crucial role .
that is not what we are doing.
We? well we are still random little bombers, playing around with forces we think are lifeless, just because we are so poor at recognizing life in all its forms. -
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Re: Bombing Luna
Thu, October 15, 2009 - 3:26 AMPicking fights is certainly not my intention! I simply do not agree. I have not even come close to personal attacks or ad hominem anything and i think i am respectful of other people and their right to their own view of others while simply stating my own. I think you just don't like what i am saying.
We think very differently, kaiya. If we are accepting of each other's right to speak our minds, and if we consider each other's thoughs respectfully, then this difference can be an asset in achieving a deeper understanding. To me, that is what conversation and discussion is about.
However, i am starting to feel quite constrained here as far as simply being able to speak my mind without angering the moderator, so i am going to leave this tribe. No hard feelings. But it has become a place where i am not welcomed to be me. -
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Re: Bombing Luna
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 12:03 PMconsider the possibiliity, that the five mile hole blown in Luna's side is the habitat of a deeply loving, ancient, and non violent ecosystem?
Would you truly prefer I be polite as I yell out that we are destorying things we do not - yet - 'know' how to recognize?
Our present 'science' functions in the reverse model to our law. In legality, a man or woman is considered innocent until proven guilty.
Our 'highly evolved scientists do whatever the fuck they please, and then watch to see what mistakes they are making - maybe.
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Re: Bombing Luna
Sun, October 18, 2009 - 5:59 PMThen i guess we need to start seriously considering every step we take. I may be stepping on ecosystems all the time.
wow, i thought it was bad when people get in the way of progress for things that we can even see and touch. now are you suggesting we get in the way of progress for things we can't see or detect and may or may not exist?
seriously?
we are human beings, we do what humans beings do. it is in our nature to blow shit up.
when we learn that we are doing harm, then we may stop. depends how great our need is.
but that's the way of life.
I don't see lions considering how they effect the well-being of the wildebeest...
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Re: Bombing Luna
Wed, October 21, 2009 - 12:16 PMProgress ?
Are you kidding me?
do you areally believe the things you just said, or were you spacing life for a moment while you typed?
It is simple, graceful, common sense to be very cautious when entering a new environment. It is arrogant and cruel to presume our narrow range of perception can fathom what is going on, on Luna.
so to leap in anyway, blow a fucking five mile hole, and have yo8ung men calling it progress... well seems like a recipe for a very medioacre, thoughtless, careless and isolated species. -
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Re: Bombing Luna
Wed, October 21, 2009 - 3:53 PMsorry daniel, I don't mean to be disrespectful, but the idea of holding off on doing something because of something we can't detect seems a bit silly.
don't get me wrong, perhaps blowing a 5 mile hole is perhaps a little extreme.
but that's not the point i was trying to get across.
do i think we should start bombing every body in space? no.
do i think we should simply not do anything because of something that might be there? no.
surely there is some middle ground. i mean, they could simply start by digging. with a spade. -
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Re: Bombing Luna
Thu, October 22, 2009 - 9:23 AMI don't care if you disrespect ME.
It seems extremely obvious however, that when we know very little about a new environment it is well beyond the pale to crash in and
BLOW SHIT UP
Its like trouncing through someone's garden, stepping on their flowers, and then saying 'ug, I didn't see them, ug'
I like you. I don't want to swear anymore. It seems completely obscene to be so arrogant we think our appallingly narrow range of perceptions is all that exists.
This isn't a little hole we dug.
ITS FIVE MILES WIDE
progress@!#$!@#!@#>>?????????
Besides I am telling you there is something there. I trust the intuition that tells me so. now, are you saying I have to prove that something is being k8illed before you'll stop? That is like saying we have the right to kill people all the way up until we understand the language in which they say...
NO
And who do you think Luna beings would ask to carry the message of 'NO'?
Think about it. We don't believe in them as a species. So how very convienient to disregard any attempt to show there is actually life there...
as we try and 'discover' life there...
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Re: Bombing Luna
Thu, October 22, 2009 - 12:50 PMeh heh heh,
well yes, I am rather embarrassed.
perhaps I was rather frivolous with my use of language.
I made light of the situation by grossly exaggerating and expressing myself in a playful and game-like fashion.
it was rather disgraceful in a way.
I didn't realise what exactly you are referring to.
when i read "something we can't detect" I did not realise you meant something specific that is actually there but that NASA's instruments have not identified.
I trust you when you say there is something there.
with the right composure and appropriate respect, I would like to ask you, do you think that our explosion will effect something that is beyond our perception?
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Re: Bombing Luna
Fri, October 23, 2009 - 11:42 AMI think that when wew blast tunnels through mountains they cry.
I think this, because I FEEL it. i tune in and ask and get a collage of perceptions that I can't quite make sense of yet, I put them together slowly and caringly, and so many of my conclusions bear out in time... its just that they are coming from a range of awareness that doesn't have credbility.
so my angewr, my willingness to shut down playfulness on such issues, comes from a thought process that accepts continuing to trample life, while we are in the midst of learning about it. Again, think about it, its the opposite of innocent until proven guilty... 'until we can prove something is getting hurt... we'll keep doing it.'
For the next month Takeshi, pay attention to the moon. be aware of when she rises and falls. what phase she is in. Ask close women friends if they are cycling with her, and when.
Learn about her, and ask this question in your heart. 'Did you want a five mile hole bombed in your side? What form does life take on your surface, and right beneith?'
Presume she hears you, and is replying in a manner that will open you to more than you have been able to grasp.
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Re: Bombing Luna
Fri, October 23, 2009 - 12:38 PM'There is life beyond your mother's garden
thyere is life beyond your wildest dreams'
- Sinead O'conner
It is challenging communicating how deeply connecting with the moon can go. Please listen to this.
kaiya.podbean.com/
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Re: Bombing Luna
Sat, October 24, 2009 - 9:32 AMI went to listen, but i can't find a play button. I'm not sure how i'm supposed to listen sorry.
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Re: Bombing Luna
Sat, October 24, 2009 - 9:36 AMOk daniel, I will pay more attention to the moon from this day forwards.
what you have said makes sense. I had not considered it in this way so I think that I will never see the moon in the same way again.
I'll see what the Luna communicates and if i can make any sense of anything, I'll get back to you. -
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Re: Bombing Luna
Sun, October 25, 2009 - 1:46 PMI just checked some information and according to some articles, the impact crater is 14 metres in diameter.
what do you feel is the significance of this?
does this change anything? -
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Re: Bombing Luna
Sun, October 25, 2009 - 7:06 PMway way over sensitive for accusing someone of picking fights over... -
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Re: Bombing Luna
Tue, October 27, 2009 - 3:39 PMA wide range of phenomena are getting crushed. Thi8s particular step... to blomw a hole in a planet new to our presence... seems to be the appropriate time to sayt 'are we really ging to bring the same patterns of creation... along with our willful ignorance of what we impact.... to a new planet.
When is a better time to ask this question?
Seems to be the perfect time to ask this question.
Interesting insight of scale. to an ant... we destroy their entire world when we take out fourteen meters.
We do this all the time.
WE WE WE WE WE WE WE
the difference in this case, and what makes it so amazing as a wake up...
Is that we really can avoid causing any destruction on Luna.
fourteen meters does seem, to be less of a big deal.
Really though, the question can be asked right now before we transplant our behavior, and spread like a disease.
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